Pope’s sympathetic call to Catholic traditionalist

will the clergy from Archdiocese of Bombay be so humble to the Laity, criticizing their misdeeds? We doubt very much, looking at the situation in various parishes. Questioning Parish Priest’s action is taboo, and the person questioning it is projected as trouble maker and condemned from sacred pulpit. — GREG

Pope tells writer he understood his criticisms were made with love.

Vatican City:

“Yes, it’s true. I received the telephone call by the Pope. It happened two weeks ago, November 1st, All Saints. But I naturally kept it to myself. No one was supposed to have known it, it was a conversation of an absolutely private nature. But considering that the [news] agencies have mentioned it…”

Mario Palmaro, the Italian traditional Catholic writer and journalist who has authored many books and articles together with his friend Alessandro Gnocchi (many of which have been posted in translation here on Rorate) told Italian daily Libero about the fact. In September and October, after a very critical article published in Il Foglio, Palmaro and Gnocchi were summarily fired by Catholic broadcaster Radio Maria after several years of work in the station.

The phone call, Libero describes, was first reported by Traditionalist website Papale Papale with no mentioned names, and then by VinoNuovo, which mentioned Palmaro, who is currently very ill, by name.

Palmaro’s declarations to Libero on the matter are all mentioned below:

“It bothers me that the news has been made public, and if it had been up to me, and Alessandro, to whom I revealed it immediately, it would never have been known. Also because the Pontiff obviously had no intention that his gesture be made public, as well as the contents of our conversation”.

“Pope Francis told me that he was very close to me, having learned of my health condition, of my grave illness, and I clearly noticed his deep empathy, the attention for a person as such, beyond ideas and opinions, while I live through a time of trial and suffering.”

“I was astonished, amazed, above all moved: for me, as a Catholic, that which I was experiencing was one of the most beautiful experiences in my life. But I felt the duty to remind the Pope that I, together wih Gnocchi, had expressed specific criticisms regarding his work, while I renewed my total fidelity [to him] as a son of the Church. The Pope almost did not let me finish the sentence, saying that he had understood that those criticisms had been made with love, and how important it had been for him to receive them.” [These words] “comforted me greatly.”

Source: Rorate Caeli

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  1. Silent Voice said,

    November 20, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Robert Raymonds commented on the Post:

    St. Joseph’s Church, Miraroa: DEBATE RAGES ON:

    Pope tells writer he understood his criticisms were made with love.

    This refers to the call from Pope Francis to Mario Palmaro, the Italian traditional Catholic writer and journalist…. The Pope’s call reveals love in action; the power of love to bring healing in the words expressed by Mario Palmaro, “ I was astonished, amazed, above all moved: for me, as a Catholic, that which I was experiencing was one of the most beautiful experiences in my life…’. He concludes with, “[These word] “comforted me greatly.”
    Almost daily I can see the Pope’s utterances and actions provide manna for the soul and bread for the journey and HOPE. In spite of the gloom and doom incidents such as in our parish, the Pope’s lifestyle gives one simple message ‘ GOD IS STILL WORKING.

    If today we are raising certain issues in the parish mission and life of St Jospeh Church, Mira Road it is only because of our communion with the parish/ CATHOLIC CHURCH. Yes, there are some clergy who deviate but so many are good too, inspiring and example. It is through my journey with them that I find myself carefronting the priests of my parish. But they have labelled it as ‘confronting’. Sadly in my parish the issues/aberrations, scandals have taken gigantic proportions. When spoken in love the fruit of that meeting was bitterness and marginalization of the ones raising the issues. Parishioners have been wounded so badly by the actions of the Parish Priest/ Provincial. To add to this ignominy, individuals mostly from the PPC have been manipulated consciously and some blindly out of false reverence with reasons best known to them. This has caused a massive heartburn and many have stopped coming to church and many have joined the various sects that have mushroomed in the parish. The situation has resulted in a windfall for these sects. Who is responsible? Mr Greg rightly states that the sacred pulpit has been misused. In my parish the Altar has been used more for economical sacrifice where the spiritual interests of the faithful have been relegated to the back-burner and cash reserves have been raised. Of course many many parishioners are questioning where the money raised from each family (Rs 1000l-) has gone. Many knowing the situation have not given this amount and this includes me.No transparency and no judicial use of monies. We have to hear and experience the vast majority of parishioners going through hell to make ends meet. In the midst of this heart-rending situation one must learn the strategies and practices the Parish Priest and his coterie have employed to suck out cash when parishioners go to ask for services (sacraments).

    The actions and message of the Pope can be traced back to the Call, Formation, Community and Prayer Life every priest goes through. The laity don’t go through this rigorous formation yet cannot alienate on God’s Call for holiness and discipleship. We laity too go through formation at different stages of life. The silence of the clergy stems from the teachings from these pseudo-priests whose agenda is to make parishioners stoics as mentioned by Nameeta by making the office of priesthood as untouchable, infallible and unaccountable. This is ingrained when you hear the homilies especially on Vianney Sunday by such priests.

    We cannot stress more the Clergy’s words and actions have on the faithful and this is seen from the actions of those who aligned with the Parish Priest and Provincial. The one common accusation against us is that we are being influenced by some political party and we have a political agenda. When asked to clarify there is either silence or digression. Even efforts to bring these signatories have not borne fruit so far.
    The Pope’s actions and his appointment of Oswald Cardinal Gracias in his inner circle to bring about reforms in the Vatican have given us new lease of life and hope for the Catholic Church in Bombay and beyond. After 3 plus months we have been assured that we shall be able to meet him soon. We are sure we will see and experience a mini Vatican here. That is THE WAY.


  2. November 20, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Saturday of the Thirty-second Week in Ordinary Time
    Lectionary: 496

    Reading 1 Wis 18:14-16; 19:6-9

    When peaceful stillness compassed everything
    and the night in its swift course was half spent,
    ***Your all-powerful word, from heaven’s royal throne
    bounded, a fierce warrior, into the doomed land,***
    bearing the sharp sword of your inexorable decree.
    And as he alighted, he filled every place with death;
    he still reached to heaven, while he stood upon the earth.

    For all creation, in its several kinds, was being made over anew,
    serving its natural laws,
    ***that your children might be preserved unharmed.***
    The cloud overshadowed their camp;
    and out of what had before been water, dry land was seen emerging:
    Out of the Red Sea an unimpeded road,
    and a grassy plain out of the mighty flood.
    Over this crossed the whole nation sheltered by your hand,
    after they beheld stupendous wonders.
    For they ranged about like horses,
    and bounded about like lambs,
    praising you, O Lord! their deliverer.

    God a ‘relentless warrior’ for our salvation, says Pope Francis

    Nov. 16, 2013

    Preaching his homily during Mass at the chapel of Santa Marta in the Vatican, the Pope stressed God’s unwavering dedication to redeeming mankind. “When the Lord takes up the defense of his people it is like this: he is a relentless warrior and saves his people,” Pope Francis said Nov. 16. God “saves (and) renews everything: ‘All creation was made anew in its nature as before.’ ‘The Red Sea became a road without obstacles,’” the Roman Pontiff preached, recounting the first reading, from the book of Wisdom. Our salvation comes when God hears “the prayer of his people, because he has heard in his heart that his chosen ones suffer,” he explained.

    The Pope then turned to the Gospel story in which a poor widow persistently begs an unjust judge to render a verdict on her behalf. This widow’s perseverance reveals the true strength of humanity: that of prayer. “And what is the power of men? What is the power of mankind? That of the widow: to knock at the heart of God, knocking, asking, lamenting many problems, many sorrows, and asking the Lord for freedom from these sorrows, from these sins, from these problems.” God has the power to save man, but “the power of man is prayer.” Most especially, “the prayer of the humble man is the weakness of God,” he emphasized. “God is weak only in this: he is weak in respect to the prayers of his people … the culmination of the power of God, the salvation of God” is in “the Incarnation of the Word.”

    The Lord “does and will do justice to his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night,” added the Pope. The persistent widow in the Gospel “was brave” and never tired in her pleas, he said.“You are like the widow: pray, ask, knock at the heart of God, every day.”“Always remember that God is powerful. He is capable of making all things new, but he also has a weakness: our prayer.”Pope Francis concluded by thanking the priests of St. Peter’s Basilica who were present at the Mass, reminding them of the power of their intercession in “praying to the Lord for the many needs of the Church, of humanity, of all.”“Thank you for this works…and continues on for the good of the Church.”

    Source: Catholic News Agency


  3. November 20, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Reblogged this on The Iniquitous: Church Crimes.


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